Ep. 34: Western Medicine vs Holistic Medicine: Why Not Both?
What Chinese Medicine Actually Is
We had a registered acupuncturist on this week, and the first thing she cleared up is that Chinese medicine isn't a single treatment. It's a holistic, preventative system that looks at the whole body instead of pulling one symptom out and dealing with it alone.
Western medicine isolates. This looks at how everything connects. That distinction sounds small until you see what it changes.
Your Body Is an Electrical Circuit
Her explanation was the clearest we've heard. Every point in your body sits on a channel or a pathway, and everything needs to be running smoothly for you to feel good.
So what happens when something short circuits? The energy stops flowing freely. That's when pain shows up. Not as a random event, but as a signal that something upstream is stuck.
She Blew Up Her Life at 25 to Study This
She got into it because nothing else worked. Massage, chiro, physio, years of trying things with no lasting result. Then she tried acupuncture, walked out feeling like she'd been rebooted, and got obsessed with the question of how.
So she packed up, moved to a city where she knew nobody, and started a three and a half year program at 25 while her friends were buying houses. I'm too old to be going back to school. Then she got there and found out she was one of the youngest people in the room. People on their second and third career changes. It is genuinely never too late.
Keep the Other Job. Seriously.
She's building her practice while still serving. Not as a fallback plan she's embarrassed about, as the actual strategy.
Social media has sold everyone the idea that success arrives all at once. For most people it does not. If you don't have a pile of savings, you need income while you build, and there is nothing shameful about that. The people who skip this step usually aren't more committed, they just run out of runway faster.
You Don't Build From Scarcity
Having other income means she isn't building from a place of you have to book with me so I can pay my bills.
And clients feel that. Desperation is loud. When you're not operating from panic, you make better decisions about who you work with, what you charge, and how fast you grow.
You Have No Idea What Baseline Feels Like
She asks clients to rate their stress out of ten. People say nine. Ten. Constantly.
We're not built to be switched on all the time, but most of us have been in fight or flight so long that we've forgotten what the other setting feels like. One of us googled why do I feel like this after a first session, only to find out the exhaustion was just her body sitting at baseline for the first time in years. When rest feels like a symptom, that tells you something.
One Condition Per Appointment
In Canada there is often a literal sign on the wall. One issue per visit. You waited three weeks for the appointment, and you're not allowed to mention the other four things.
Meanwhile she's asking about your periods, your digestion, your sleep, your stress, your whole life, and then looking at how it all connects. Symptoms don't show up for nothing. They're your body talking. Nobody's listening if they only let you say one sentence.
Nothing Gets Fixed in One Session
People come in with something they've had for a decade, do one 45 minute session, and decide it doesn't work.
Her actual recommendation, if money isn't the barrier: once a week for five or six weeks. It often takes three or four sessions before things start shifting in a way that lasts. After that you stretch to every other week, then monthly for maintenance. Patience is the whole treatment plan.
The Needle Is Thinner Than a Hair
If the needles are what's stopping you, the comparison is a strand of hair. If you've had blood taken, a tattoo, a piercing, or Botox, this is nothing.
You might leave relaxed. You might leave a little high. You might drool. Nobody is judging you.
The Patient Who Cancelled His Surgery
A patient with a spinal injury started acupuncture purely to manage pain while he waited months for surgery. He committed hard, twice a week for a long stretch, alongside physio.
He ended up cancelling the surgery. That's one person and one outcome, not a promise. But it's a decent argument for at least trying the thing before you accept that the invasive option is your only option.
Woo Woo Is Doing a Lot of Work
Medicine that's thousands of years old gets dismissed as woo woo, and it's worth asking who benefits from that framing. Preventative care doesn't make pharmaceutical companies money. Things not going wrong is bad for business.
That's not an argument against Western medicine. We need it, there's a time and a place, and yes, sometimes you just take the Advil. Our guest does too.
Why Not Both?
In China, hospitals run a Western wing and a Chinese medicine wing that refer patients to each other and share scans. Fully integrated. There's a hospital in LA doing it too.
So why are we treating this like you have to pick a team? Use one to complement the other. The versus framing benefits everyone except the person who's actually sick.
Get Clear on What You Actually Want
Her advice to her younger self was to believe in herself more, but the useful part was what came underneath it. She spent years looking at other women and thinking I want that, without ever asking whether she actually did. She was chasing an aesthetic.
The clarity came after she started over, not before. If you're waiting to feel certain before you make the move, you've got it backwards. Stop borrowing other people's goals and go find out what yours are.
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(0:00) Miss Carly Hyatt, welcome to Ho to CEO. Thanks for having me. I'm just so excited.
I know you (0:06) have a wealth of knowledge to bring to the table today and I know there's so many people out there (0:09) in the health and wellness space that are looking for so many answers, so I'm excited to pick your (0:14) brain today. I know we both are. Health and wealth.
Health and wealth, bitch. So for those who do not (0:21) know you, how would you describe yourself to anyone who has never heard of Chinese medicine? (0:26) I am a registered acupuncturist. I studied Chinese medicine for three and a half years, (0:31) but if you've never heard of Chinese medicine, it is a holistic, preventative style of medicine (0:37) that looks at the whole body.
So rather than looking at individual symptoms, like I feel like (0:44) Western medicine often does, where they take a symptom and isolate it and then treat that thing (0:49) and then move on to the next thing, we're looking at how all of the different symptoms or things are (0:54) happening in your body are interconnected. Think of your body as like an electrical circuit. Each (0:59) point is connected on a different channel or pathway and you need everything to be running (1:05) smoothly for your body to be feeling good, for there not to be pain.
So does it short circuit? (1:10) Yeah, exactly. So imagine something does short circuit, then there's not this free flow of energy (1:17) anymore or electricity, however you want to think about it, and then that's when pain is created. (1:22) Chinese medicine and acupuncture specifically helps the body switch to parasympathetic mode.
(1:28) So like your rest and digest. Right. I know you've been in that space for a while and you (1:31) were kind of trying to figure out what sector of Chinese medicine, what specifically made you look (1:36) at acupuncture? Honestly, it was through my own benefits of acupuncture.
So I have had a lot of (1:43) chronic pain, like migraines, the jaw. TMJ girly. TMJ girly here.
We're like all three of us. We're (1:52) like, oh, IBS, IBS girly for sure. Like there's a couple of things.
I went for the first time (1:59) because I have tried so many things for like migraines, jaw pain and like massage, chiro, (2:06) physio, nothing really gave me long lasting results. And so I was like, well, I'm going to (2:10) just try it because I'm at my wits end with this. And I remember getting it for the first time and (2:14) leaving literally feeling high, like, and just like so relaxed.
And then I was like, oh, (2:21) I can actually like open my mouth and like chew without having pain. And then I went like I, (2:28) it became a bit of a regular thing and I noticed really good results from it. And I just got so (2:33) fascinated by like, how the fuck does this work? How am I walking into this treatment and then (2:38) leaving feeling like I've just had a reboot? Yeah.
And I think it was just like being so curious (2:44) about that that made me want to study it. To do that, you basically packed everything up, (2:48) went to Victoria and just started from scratch. What did it take like mentally to have to rebuild (2:56) kind of mid twenties? I mean, there are definitely lots of challenges and like days of self-doubt.
(3:03) I think leading up to the decision of going there was like, I was excited, but I was also like, (3:09) what am I doing? I don't know anyone in Victoria. I don't have a community there. Also like, (3:14) I feel like I should already be building my career.
I'm 25 and I have friends who are buying (3:18) houses. But when I started the program, I very quickly learned that I was actually one of the (3:24) youngest people in the program, which was, yeah. So that just like really inspired me because I (3:29) went into it being like, I'm too old to be going back to school.
And then meeting people in their (3:35) like mid thirties, late thirties, 40, and maybe this is their second career change or third career (3:41) change. And it just made me realize that it's literally never too late to start over. I also (3:47) spent a lot of my early twenties traveling.
And I think the skills that I learned while doing that (3:52) were like essential to me being in school later. And also I don't think I could be like the (3:57) practitioner that I am now if I hadn't gone and traveled and learned about independence and human (4:02) connection and maturity. Cause it does kind of tie into the energy Chinese medicine aspect of things.
(4:10) And just working with people, like I think so much of what I learned while I was away traveling, (4:16) I still use in my practice now. Okay. So now you're out of school, you've started (4:20) your own acupuncture business and simultaneously, obviously you're working another job in order to (4:26) pay the bills.
How is all of this going? It's going well. When you're building a business (4:33) or just anything, I think for yourself, there's days and weeks of you're kind of on a high and (4:38) everything's feeling super successful and it's going well. And then there's kind of days and weeks (4:43) of being like, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah.
Why, like, why aren't things flowing? Like, (4:50) but I've just, I'm always needing to remind myself that it sounds so cliche, but like Rome wasn't (4:54) built overnight. And it's literally true. Like when you're building anything for yourself, (4:58) it just takes so much patience.
And I think it's okay if you need to have another job for a while. (5:03) I think maybe social media gives this false kind of conception and like advertisement that success (5:10) just happens overnight. And for some people it does, but I would say for the majority of people, (5:15) it does not.
And sometimes that requires you to also have something else until you get to a place (5:22) where you're, you can let go of that thing. And so for me, that's serving. And I just think that (5:27) when you're building a business, like I don't want to build it from a scarcity mindset of, (5:31) oh, I'm not busy.
I'm not building fast enough. I'm not like hitting these goals or I'm not like (5:37) where I think I should be. And so I'm going to like, just operate out of this scarcity mindset (5:42) of like, you have to come see me so I can pay my bills.
That's just not what like, (5:47) yeah, I just don't want to function from that place. And so having another income allows me to (5:51) like, and people feel that while you're practicing. Totally.
Yeah. I hope so. And I think a lot of (5:56) people don't give building something of their own a chance because they think it's kind of one or (6:02) the other.
Like you, you can't have more than one job or they just won't go through that. So, (6:06) and then it's like, it's impossible for them to start a business because they don't have any sort (6:10) of backup at the same time and, or they'll give up on their business because they're just desperate (6:15) and they can't build up the clientele. And so I think honestly, the way you're doing it is how (6:19) it's probably the most like tried and true way of starting a business.
It's like, you need to (6:24) have a backup income because how else? Yeah. Or you need to have saved up a shitload of money. (6:29) Yeah, exactly.
In order to make sure you, yeah. Like who knows, right? Yeah. I mean, props to you (6:35) for doing it.
It's not easy all the time, but I think it's, I like feel like it's so worth it. (6:41) Yeah. So rewarding.
Yeah. I can't wait for your acupuncture practice to pop up after this episode. (6:48) We will drop the address.
Yes. Okay. I know that specifically on our podcast, we talk about (6:56) super ambitious women mainly who are, you know, they're hustling, they're grinding, (7:00) and typically we're running on empty or caffeine and stress, even anxiety.
How do you think something (7:08) like acupuncture, adding that into a busy, ambitious women's practice or every day (7:14) could really benefit them? I love this question because I feel like that demographic of women (7:21) is like most of my practice, like most of my clientele. Yeah. I love it.
Like, and not even (7:26) just women, like men too, but I feel like women specifically like have so much that they're (7:33) trying to juggle at one time. And it's so common to be running on literally empty, like you said. (7:40) And I just think that acupuncture and this medicine can really give your body a chance to, (7:48) like I said, switch back into that rest and digest.
We're not meant to be on all the time. (7:53) Like we are not meant to be in like fight or flight mode all the time, but I just think the modern (7:58) woman is a lot of the time. And so maybe all I can offer you is an hour on the table where you (8:04) can slow down.
But that I think through repetition gives your body a chance to remember what it feels (8:09) like to switch into that rest and digest. And then like outside of the treatment room, it becomes (8:14) easier. It's kind of muscle memory.
The first time your body might be like, what the fuck even is (8:21) this mode? I like forgot that this should be my baseline. Yes, exactly. What is baseline anymore? (8:27) Like you don't know.
And I think so many women don't know. And also men don't know. Like I have (8:30) so many people come in and I ask them their stress levels out of 10 and they say nine or 10.
(8:36) My very first time getting acupuncture, I was literally like Googling like, (8:40) why do I feel like this? Like, why do I feel so exhausted? And it was literally like, (8:46) because you've released all the shit and now your body's at baseline rebuilding. Basically, (8:51) that's why you feel that way. God damn, this is baseline? What the fuck? You can back check that (8:55) for me and tell me if that's true.
No, I think it's true. But I was like, oh my God, like what? (8:59) Like because I, yeah, I'd never experienced anything like it. Like I couldn't believe it.
(9:03) It felt like I must've just been in fight or flight for years prior to this treatment. (9:07) And I think most of us are. And I feel like it's so common that I have people come in and (9:12) when they leave, they're like, I didn't even know how much tension and stress there was to release.
(9:19) You would even, when you were working on me, be like, oh girl. And I'm like, what? Like I (9:22) didn't know this muscle was just like there. But that happens in acupuncture all the time, (9:27) I feel like, as you guys tell us.
Because you could ask us like, where are you stressed? Where (9:32) are you tense? And we're like, well, I don't know, like in my shoulder. And they're like, (9:35) God damn. Actually, it's in your toe.
And you're like, what? But like that's been my experience. (9:43) It's so wild. Oh my God.
Well, I know you had a couple of recommendations, even like how often (9:50) women should go, men or women. I know for me, you told me I should try like biweekly and then (9:56) monthly. Is everybody a bit different or do you typically recommend the same thing to get people (10:01) going? I feel like it's common that people will have something for a long time, like chronic (10:07) migraines.
And then they come in one time for acupuncture and they're like, this has not been (10:11) solved. So it doesn't work. But it's like you've had this thing for 10 years.
One 45 minute session (10:18) is not going to cure it. So I feel like for more chronic things, I tell people the more often you (10:24) can come in the beginning, the better. Obviously, I know we don't have the best benefit plan.
(10:28) And like finances are a factor. So it's really like whatever people can afford to do. But (10:35) like let's say money's not an issue.
Then I would say come once a week for like five or six weeks (10:41) and we'll see what changes. It sometimes takes your body like three or four sessions before (10:46) things are kind of like actually rebooting and then the results are lasting. And then after that, (10:52) you can stretch out to like biweekly.
And then once a month is kind of like maintenance. And (10:57) you can taper off. I feel like that makes sense though, because people just lack patience these (11:01) days.
Everything's so instant, especially with Western med, you know, instant fix. So people don't (11:06) want to take the time to wait, like just get it over with instead of like actually finding the (11:11) root and slowly building off it. Yeah.
It's like, yeah, you can like go take this prescription (11:15) medication and you will notice probably an immediate change. But then as soon as you get (11:20) off that, it's going to come back. Because you're numb, literally.
It usually numbs. (11:24) Takes time to like find the root of what's going on. Totally.
Yeah. And then solve it. (11:29) And then solve it.
Yeah. You're not going to just like, oh, well, there it is and like get rid of (11:33) it. It was your big toe the whole day.
One needle in the big toe and you're back to normal. Well, (11:41) like honestly, sometimes it feels that way. Sometimes, yeah.
I know you have, you're super (11:45) passionate about, you know, trying to find alternatives for Western med, even though (11:49) everyone uses it consistently. I can't help it. I still use Advil.
I know you're against it. (11:53) No, same. Oh, sometimes you gotta use Advil.
You heard it here first. You heard it here, (11:58) she even fucking used Advil. God bless it.
But for the instant fix, you know, if I don't have (12:04) the alternative for the moment, what do you think that Chinese medicine addresses that (12:09) Western medicine doesn't tap into at all? I think it's just like that idea of looking at (12:15) the entire body as one interconnected system rather than just treating and isolating individual (12:24) problems or whatever. Like if a woman comes in or or man, but I feel like we keep saying (12:34) men, you can come, but like, I love to, we just don't care about you. No offense.
(12:39) I love to treat the ladies. So I'm just going to say ladies. (12:42) Um, so if like a lady woman comes in, a lady, lady, (12:51) so if a lady comes in and she tells me that she has painful periods, but she also has digestive (12:59) issues and she hasn't been sleeping well.
And like, there's a list and we go through a lot of (13:03) these questions. I'm asking you about your lifestyle and all of these things. Like I'm (13:08) going to look at everything that she tells me and how it connects to each other.
I don't know (13:12) how many of us have gone into a doctor and said, here's my fucking grocery list. Yeah. And then (13:17) they're like, well, first of all, there's usually like a fucking well in Canada, there's like (13:23) literally a piece of paper on the wall and it's like one condition per appointment.
Yeah. Like (13:27) first of all, okay. So like three weeks to get that appointment and um, do not bring up anything (13:33) outside of whatever the immediate thing is.
And usually it's like, here's your prescription. Fuck (13:38) right off. Like, yeah, exactly, exactly.
And so I just feel like that's where it's different. It's (13:42) like, we're looking at everything to try to figure out what thing is out of alignment or what is out (13:47) of balance that is like creating all of these things. Like why are symptoms popping up? There's (13:51) a reason.
Like it's not just for nothing. It's your body talking to you when you're having different (13:57) symptoms show up and there's usually something that's out of balance. And so it's just like (14:03) really trying to get deeper and ask the questions and figure out why this is happening.
And I just (14:08) really feel like Western medicine doesn't do that. Don't get me wrong. Like we need Western medicine.
(14:13) There's a time and a place and like, yeah, we are, we need it. It's necessary. But I just think that (14:19) it doesn't need to be the only thing.
Like you can use holistic medicine as well to compliment. (14:23) Yeah. Like medicine that's like thousands of years old.
I'm like, how do you say like, no, (14:29) that's bullshit. Like that makes no sense. Like I do believe, I think we should have both as well.
(14:35) I think the most messed up thing is that people have become like over time, it's been like (14:40) Western versus, you know. Yeah. I can't stand it.
But like why? Be interchangeable. Why wouldn't (14:45) you use both? Like it doesn't make any sense. Yeah.
And there are... Big Pharma. Well, yeah. (14:52) It's because like preventative traditional medicine like does not make Big Pharma money.
(15:01) Yes, exactly. Like if we can prevent things from happening, Big Pharma is losing. Yeah.
So I think (15:08) that's like a whole part of it. But if you go to China or like look at China, they in the hospital, (15:13) they've got a Western medicine section and a Chinese medicine section and they refer to each (15:18) other. Yeah.
And they send scans and information to each other. And it's like completely integrated. (15:24) What a concept.
Yeah. Wow. What the fuck? It seems so simple, right? I'm actually so jealous.
(15:29) Why am I jealous of China right now? Yeah. That's amazing. I wish we could get there, but I... (15:35) Well, maybe one day.
Do you think we could get there one day? Carly will lead the fucking movement. (15:38) I'd love to get us there one day. I don't know.
I would hope like there's a hospital in LA that (15:43) is doing this. Oh, really? So there's like places that are, but it's just I think we've been so (15:50) conditioned to believe that holistic medicine is woo-woo. Yes.
Which is crazy to me. Like I think (15:57) that's just a way of discrediting it. So less people do it and then more people turn to (16:02) prescriptions and Western medicine.
Prescription drugs. Like literally, I just think it's again (16:06) Big Pharma because I think it's not even like Western medicine's the problem. (16:10) It's really just the pharmaceutical companies that benefit from prescribing you medicine.
(16:16) I feel like we're going to get like killed for this episode. I'm like, I have to stop talking. (16:20) They're going to send a drone.
Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, we could go down the rabbit hole, (16:26) but yeah, we won't do that. Next episode. Well, let's say any one of the ladies, (16:34) ladies, ladies.
These are my ladies. These are our ladies, our hoes. Let's say one of the hoes (16:39) watching and they've never tried acupuncture before ever.
And they're kind of considering it, (16:45) but they're a little skeptical. What's one piece of advice that you would give them? (16:49) I think that it's okay to feel scared, but all that it takes is just some openness to try something (16:55) different. And if what you've been doing isn't already working, then like, what do you have to (16:59) lose by trying something new? I will also say that acupuncture needles are literally like the (17:04) is comparable to a strand of hair.
So for anyone who's like scared of the actual needle part, (17:11) if you've ever had blood taken, if you have a tattoo, if you have a piercing, (17:15) if you've ever gotten Botox, like that's going to be, you're not, it's going to be nothing. (17:21) It's going to feel like nothing. Um, if anything, you're going to leave feeling really relaxed.
(17:26) You might drool. Yeah. The first time people come in, I'm just trying to figure out like (17:33) what their life looks like and all the moving parts.
And then we're working together to create (17:39) a treatment plan that works specifically for you because no two persons the same. So it's like (17:44) two people could come in for headaches and their treatments are going to be completely different. (17:48) So it's just like an open space where you can talk about things that are going on in your health and (17:53) mental health and have someone listen and then kind of work together to figure out a plan (18:00) of how to progress and hopefully get you feeling better.
Love it. You'll be back. (18:04) Yeah, exactly.
What is the craziest condition that you've ever heard of getting fully cured (18:11) through Chinese medicine? There was a patient that my instructor in school was seeing, (18:18) he had like a spinal injury and had been in a wheelchair for like six months to eight months (18:26) while he was waiting to get in and have surgery and see a specialist. And he started doing (18:32) acupuncture more for pain management, like not to cure the thing because in his brain he needed (18:37) to go have surgery, but it was just to like manage the symptoms that he was having until he could (18:42) go to have surgery. And he didn't even end up having to have the surgery like (18:47) through pretty intense treatments.
I feel like he was probably going twice a week for like an (18:51) extended amount of time, like he really committed. But he cancelled the surgery, (18:56) he didn't have to have surgery. He like with acupuncture and physio ended up walking (19:01) without needing this surgery.
And like, yeah, so it just shows like if you can really commit (19:09) to figuring out like the underlying cause of the things happening in your body, (19:15) you don't always need to go as far as like having surgery or like doing prescription or like (19:21) having to be on a prescription medication for the rest of your life. Well, that's pretty like (19:24) crazy. I think that's a really deep example of why I think everybody should at least try.
Yeah. (19:30) There's so many people out there that are suffering from health issues. And I feel like (19:33) they will go down the rabbit hole of like our medicine and put themselves on the craziest (19:40) prescription drugs, like sometimes literally get surgery and then you're out for what, (19:45) like three months recovering from surgery on the minimum.
So to think that you could potentially (19:51) cure all that without having to like do this to your body is a pretty good reason to try. Well, (19:58) yeah, exactly. And like even I feel like I read stats that said like the average American is on (20:04) like six different prescription medications.
Yeah. And it's like even if you could get yourself from (20:10) like going from six medications to one. Yeah, honestly.
Through alternative medicines. Yeah. (20:18) Like why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you try? So obviously you're in the process of building your (20:22) business from the ground up.
And is there any advice that you would give to someone that is (20:28) also in that same realm at the moment? I think having patience with yourself is like first. (20:34) And I have to remind myself that all the time. It's not always like a quick success and there (20:40) will be so many days of doubting yourself or doubting your journey or like if you're worthy (20:46) of your dreams or deserving of like this big goal or plan you've made for yourself.
And so (20:53) just always reminding yourself that if you keep going like you will eventually get there. And (20:58) then I also think just like a big part of building a business is networking and making connections (21:05) and just like putting yourself out there and having conversations that maybe feel uncomfortable. (21:10) Because like in order to grow in your business, you kind of need to like grow within yourself as (21:13) well.
It needs to go together and work hard towards those things but also be patient with (21:18) yourself. I kind of have a question to add on to that. Like in terms of using nowadays social (21:23) media to your benefit, how do you think it benefits just being online and showing up that way (21:29) while you're building your practice? I feel like we are so lucky to have social media.
Like I mean (21:37) maybe that's not a popular opinion. I know there's like a hot take. Yeah, (21:42) maybe that's a hot take.
From an entrepreneurial standpoint maybe? But like for someone trying to (21:45) build their business, we are so lucky to have social media because what? Before I would have (21:50) had to pay for a billboard? Yeah or be in the newspaper. Yeah, like it was just so much harder (21:56) to reach an audience and then it's like that way of marketing in the past would only really connect (22:01) you with people in the local area. We're so lucky to have platforms that can connect us and expose us (22:09) to so many different types of people from all over and also for free.
I think for anyone who (22:16) is an entrepreneur and just building a business, you gotta get comfortable with being on Instagram (22:21) and being on social media. Yeah, you don't even have to show your face if you don't want to. I (22:26) think a lot of people think they have to show up, face value, right? And it makes them nervous, (22:29) which I get.
But you can just like develop content any way, shape, or form that provides value, (22:35) so that's definitely something to take away. Use it to your advantage. (22:38) Yeah, definitely.
Okay, so I know we want to also promote your business a little bit here (22:43) because you are in the Vancouver area and lots of people here are from the Vancouver area. (22:48) What's your ideal client besides the ladies? For anyone looking for you in the area. (22:55) I mean, my ideal client is the ladies.
Not to discriminate, I will also happily work with men (23:04) for sure. I mean, I love... It's okay, Carly, you can discriminate a little bit. We're asking (23:12) your ideal client, not like I... You know when Rihanna did that? I mean, they know all the (23:18) people, all the genders.
Just fucking tell us. Okay, my ideal client are the ladies. Yes.
And (23:27) I want to help you regulate your cycle and also work on that nervous system so we're not feeling (23:34) crazy all the time. And yeah, fertility. I'm working lots with women who are trying to conceive (23:44) or maybe already pregnant and I just love that too.
I love working with like a female energy (23:49) and yeah, I'm practicing out of Foundation Body Lab in Mount Pleasant in Vancouver. It's a (23:54) multidisciplinary clinic, so it's kind of your one-stop shop for like massage and chiro and (23:59) acupuncture and you can book with me online or I also have my business on social media under (24:07) AcuWithCarly. AcuWithCarly.
Amazing. Insert. We'll link it up as well.
Also, yeah, if you guys have (24:14) any questions, then you should totally post them in the comments and Carly will answer them. You (24:19) should go through her social media and comment on all her shit, all the questions you have (24:23) and not bombard us. We're gonna wrap it up.
We have a little question that we ask every single (24:29) guest. If you were to go back in time and tell your younger self anything, what do you think you (24:34) would tell her? I think I would just tell her to believe in herself more. Like that sounds so (24:40) cliche, but I just think like my old self was just not super confident and didn't really have a clear (24:48) idea of what my aspirations and dreams were and I think I compared myself so much to other people (24:56) and didn't really have a clear idea of what I wanted for myself.
Like I just saw other women (25:01) and was like, I want that, I want that, I want that, but like did I really want all of those (25:05) things? Like I was just chasing maybe like an aesthetic or an image and now I feel like that (25:10) I'm older and I've started a business and I've gone back to school later in life. Those things (25:13) don't really matter as much to me. I just think if you can get really clear on what you want in (25:19) yourself and for your life, then everything else will just kind of fall into place and I wish I (25:24) had just known that earlier.
I love that. Beautiful. Beautiful.
Believe in yourself. (25:31) Well, thank you so much for coming on. I am so happy we were able to do this.
I hope everyone (25:36) goes and looks Carly up. She has genuinely helped my body so much and I hope you learned a lot today, (25:42) you guys. Yeah, I feel like also just like watching this episode is one thing, but like actually going (25:46) and seeing you and talking about whatever they may be struggling with.
Put it into practice. I (25:54) it's very hard to put it all into words and I think it's just such a customized process. (25:58) Yeah, it is.
Thanks for having me. I love chatting. (26:02) Okay, you hoes.
I guess it's time for us to go. (26:06) Thank you so much for listening and watching and we will see you next Friday. Bye.
